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Just recently was reading on a bible message board where this lady fussing about everybody posting their passages using the King James. She said, and I quote:

"I hate to complain..I realize everyone is free to use whatever translation they want but I have seen a gradual shift over the years to more and more using the Old English version bible translations when posting scripture on here...people that never used too are using it now and its making it more and more difficult, at least for me to even read through threads..which partly why I am spending less and less time on here."

I could not help it --- but I chuckled about it when I read it. I have used that beautiful book for years and never understood why anyone who spoke our language would want to use anything else seeing that they change the words so much in the other bibles.

My question is and I know this will open a big can of worms; Why are so many against using the King James?

After I received your email today telling me you were going to post this question, I did a word search to find the particular board you were talking about. It's a thread on Bible Forums made by moonglow at http://bibleforums.org/showthread.php/212533-Why-are-more-and-more-using-KJV-on-here. I believe you and I have also met before. Was it also on Bible Forums? Moonglow is a very sweet lady and I am pretty sure she loves the Lord. She and I just don't see eye to eye on the correct English language Bible.

There are several reasons that people hate or avoid the King James. One of them is that it makes them work at thinking and meditating on the word. Meditation however is a good thingy though. First, it helps you to absorb what the Lord is trying to get across to you. Second, it helps us to want to dig deeper into the word so that we can understand what God's purpose is in our life through His word.

I also see in that thread where another says "I would not be party of a church which used the KJV. It would indicate IMO a close-minded view to Scripture." That is a sad report indeed. Actually, I'm used to hearing such as that anyway. But that is more a scholarly view than a scriptural view. The other versions came from manuscripts of who's author was a man by the name of Origen, who plainly said "that God really did not mean what He said" and something similar to the Apostles being unlearned men, so the scholars needed to enlighten the masses.

Whereas, the King James is the product of God's preserved manuscripts. Being such, it has the power of God behind it and it cuts sharper than any two edge sword. The others have been dulled down by scholars who believe they, and not the common Apostle should deliver it to the people.

This answer most likely will be a long thread so I'll stop there to let the brethren weigh in on it.

Tim, I am so glad that you left this one open for me to comment on! 

Most people who complain about the KJB do so on the basis of its difficulty to understand.  Thee, thou, ye and a few other words somehow seriously trip people up, despite all of these words appearing readily in popular media to provide an archaic feel.  No one ever seems to complain about the Early Modern English grammar when it is being used by wizards in kids shows. 

Just the other day, a person said to me that they struggle with the "big words." This is a misunderstanding.  All of the modern translations have words in them that people will struggle with.  This is a rather poor excuse. 

When we are examining the scriptures it is extremely important for us to realize that understanding is from God.  What we need to know, he will find a way to get it to us. 


These concerns are born by a trust in the arm of flesh instead of the power of God.  I am not really touching the doctrine here, but wanted to address the post directly as to its content.

 

As for touching doctrine however, there is a large difference in the newer versions used. My case in point, ever read the verse: James 5:16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much. KJV... This a very crucial verse concerning the way we are to help one another in the church body.

But look at this:
James 5:16 (New International Version) Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective.

I thought we were to confess our sins to God. Our faults lead us to sin, but if I confessed my sins to my brethren??? Seems to me its Roman Catholic dogma in support of the confessional. Let me think about this for a second.

Glory, you are going to have a bit of catching up to do when you get back online. Another thing like I mentioned in my previous post is that these newer versions do change teachings (doctrine) and are more flexible to extra-biblical teaching. In other words teaching that really isn't supported by the original scriptures.

One of those teaching is that Jesus is, was, and always will be God! There are some that will not accept that however. Look at this verse and then look at the examples given from these other versions.

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1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. KJV

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1 Timothy 3:16 (New International Version) Beyond all question, the mystery of godliness is great: He appeared in a body, was vindicated by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world, was taken up in glory.

1 Timothy 3:16 (New American Standard Bible) By common confession, great is the mystery of godliness:  He who was revealed in the flesh, Was vindicated in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Proclaimed among the nations, Believed on in the world, Taken up in glory.

1 Timothy 3:16 (Holman Christian Standard Bible) And most certainly, the mystery of godliness is great: He was manifested in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen by angels, preached among the Gentiles, believed on in the world, taken up in glory.

There were more to list but this will be sufficient. From the original wording which the KJV was translated, we see that it was God who came in the flesh which is our Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ. In the perversions, and I know no other word to use for them, we see that it was just "he". Of course he (Jesus) came in the flesh but "he" also was and is God. It makes it easier with these newer versions to deny the deity of our Lord and Savior.